please . help!!!

[A taxi driver]

Hello

had got

Is it simple past or perfect past? why?
If your reply is past simple ... then it has ...had and past participle

Please , write in detail. thanks.

[Rusty]

Hello

had got

Is it simple past or perfect past? why?
If your reply is past simple ... then it has ...had and past participle

Please , write in detail. thanks.
Infinitive: to get
Simple past = I got
Present Perfect = I have got
Past Perfect = I had got

Infinitive: to have
Simple past = I had
Present Perfect = I have had
Past Perfect = I had had

[A taxi driver]

Tank you Rusty
I had got a pen.

It is for possessive.So it doesn't refere to a tense.
It is confused. The form is past perfect but the meaning doesn't so.

I still need your help.

[A taxi driver]

waiting for your help

[Rusty]

Tank you Rusty
I had got a pen.

It is for possessive.So it doesn't refere to a tense.
It is confused. The form is past perfect but the meaning doesn't so.

I still need your help.
The past perfect tense is: had + past participle (had got, had taken, had received, etc.)
Use this tense when two things happened in the past, one before the other.
I had got a pen from my case when the phone rang. (Had got happened first, then the phone rang).
Got can mean possess, receive, acquire.
To show possession, use the present perfect tense: has/have got.
He's got a new job. We've got other things to do. I've got a bad cold.
To show possession in the past, use only had/have.
He had a new job. We had other things to do. I had a bad cold.
Had got means received, acquired.

[A taxi driver]

Thank you for your help

[Lucretia]

Hello,

To show possession, use the present perfect tense: has/have got.
I’m afraid you are wrong, Rusty.
have got meaning possession is not the Present Perfect Tense, it’s just a double form used in conversation and informal writing [ Michael Swan].
A taxi driver, just in case, some important features of have got = have:
1. It is not used in the past to mean possession ( Rusty has said about it).
You cannot say I had got a pen, only I had a pen in this meaning.
2. It’s much more common in British English than American English.

Best wishes.

[archfiends]

Does the phrase I had a pen or I had got a pen implies I don't have it anymore?

[Rusty]

Hello,


I’m afraid you are wrong, Rusty.
have got meaning possession is not the Present Perfect Tense, it’s just a double form used in conversation and informal writing [ Michael Swan].
A taxi driver, just in case, some important features of have got = have:
1. It is not used in the past to mean possession ( Rusty has said about it).
You cannot say I had got a pen, only I had a pen in this meaning.
2. It’s much more common in British English than American English.

Best wishes.

have got meaning possession is not the Present Perfect Tense, it’s just a double form used in conversation and informal writing
This is the part Lucretia refers to with my correction:
To show possession in the present, use the present perfect tense: has/have got, which looks like a present perfect tense, but is just a double form.
He's got a new job. We've got other things to do. I've got a bad cold.
Lucretia's comment:
1. It is not used in the past to mean possession ( Rusty has said about it).
You cannot say I had got a pen, only I had a pen in this meaning.
We agree on this point.
To show possession in the past, use only had/have.
He had a new job. We had other things to do. I had a bad cold

The present perfect has/have got is not used to mean to possess, but rather to mean acquire or receive.
Example:
He has got a good reputation. (He possesses this characteristic. This is the double form, not present perfect).
He has got a lot of complaints about his work lately. (He has received a lot of complaints. This is the present perfect of the verb to get).

Another thing I didn't mention is that both got and gotten are the past participle of get.
Example:
He had gotten a parking ticket so he went to the courthouse to pay the fine.
He had got a parking ticket so he went to the courthouse to pay the fine .

[Rusty]

Does the phrase I had a pen or I had got a pen implies I don't have it anymore?
No, this says nothing about what you have now. In a conversation, you could imply that you no longer have a pen by emphasizing HAD.
"I HAD a pen."

[archfiends]

No, this says nothing about what you have now. In a conversation, you could imply that you no longer have a pen by emphasizing HAD.
"I HAD a pen."
Thanks, it do help!