Using future simple and when,as soon as...clauses

[klemsim]

Hi teachers

1)
There are cases where we can’t use future simple after clauses such as when, as soon as etc. But is that true for any kind of sentences or only with time clauses, since next sentence seems perfectly reasonable to me -->

‘I wonder when he will come home.’


2)
I know present continuous can also be used to describe longer actions in progress now ( however, we might not be doing it at this exact second) -->

‘I’m studying to become a scientist.’

Can we also use with present continuous time expressions such as this year? If not, why?

‘This year I’m studying to become a scientist.’




cheers

[Marius Hancu]

>There are cases where we can’t use future simple after clauses such as when, as soon as etc.

Show some references, links on the Web where you found this, full text in your book with examples, etc.

>‘I wonder when he will come home.’

Fine with me and in these books:

111 on "wonder when he will come"
http://books.google.com/books?q=%22wonder+when+he+will+come%22&btnG=Search+Books


> ‘This year, I’m studying to become a scientist.’

Fine. Comma after year, though.

Use italics for your examples.

[klemsim]

hi

1)
There are cases where we can’t use future simple after clauses such as when, as soon as etc.Show some references, links on the Web where you found this, full text in your book with examples, etc.It’s from a book and since it’s not in English, I can only approx what it is being said.
Snippet refers to using adverb clauses ( when, where, as soon as… ) in time clauses for the future:

“We can’t use future tense after adverb clauses, even though dependent clause does refer to the future. Instead we use present simple or present perfect simple” -->

‘I’ll give you present when I get back from Paris’
2)
> ‘This year, I’m studying to become a scientist.’Fine. Comma after year, though.

* Why do we need comma?
* So we can use this year, but imagine we can’t use since last year, since we then must use present perfect instead?

[Marius Hancu]

>I’ll give you present when I get back from Paris

This is poor English, you need an article:

I’ll give you a present when I get back from Paris

Buy Swan, Practical English Usage and learn English from a book that is internationally respected.

[Marius Hancu]

We can’t use future tense after adverb clauses, even though dependent clause does refer to the future. Instead we use present simple or present perfect simple”

This is correct, it's called tense simplification in Swan. But it's a matter of preference.

Also, this is not the whole story:

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Future in subordinate clauses

A future verb is necessary for future reference in a subordinate clause if the main verb does not refer to the the future (or to the same time in the future).

I don't know where she will be tomorrow.
I'm sure I won't understand a word of the lecture.

Swan, Practical English Usage, tense simplification in subordinate clauses
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Your sentence:

I wonder when he will come home.

fits exactlly in this case (as wonder in the main is present).

[Marius Hancu]

This year, I’m studying to become a scientist.

You need a comma, because this is, IMO, a prefacing non-restrictive adverbial. However, I'm sure many would not use a comma and make the adverbial restrictive.

And you're right:

Since last year, I’ve been studying to become a scientist.

[klemsim]

hi

Do the same rules also apply for other tenses such as past simple, or just for future tenses?

and thank you

[Marius Hancu]

Tense simplification applies for all tenses. Buy Swan, I won't keep quoting it here, you need it.