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[abcdeflearn]

He still needs to work so hard after he is retired.

Can I see ' retired" as an adjective and simple present tense in the sentence?


Thx

[Marius Hancu]

Verb:

He still needs to work so hard after he [has] retired.

18 on "to work after he retired"
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[OddThomas]

I believe retired is an adjective in the sentence abcdeflearn wrote.

Retired is a past participle in the sentence Marius wrote (using has).

Many participles form adjectives when linked to nouns through a linking verb such as be or seem. We must be careful to distinguish them from the perfect tenses that use has/have/had.

He is retired / He has retired
She is advanced / She has advanced
I am stopped / I have stopped
You are dressed / You have dressed
They are awakened / They have awakened

[abcdeflearn]

Thank you all. Does it mean my sentence is acceptable?

[OddThomas]

Your sentence means that because the man is now out of his regular employment, he must take on other jobs to make ends meet.

Marius's sentence means that because the man has quit his regular employment, he must take on other jobs to make ends meet.

Your sentence describes a state; Marius's sentence describes an action.

[Marius Hancu]

>Your sentence describes a state; Marius's sentence describes an action.

I agree, but are you really comfortable with his original sentence?

... to work after he is retired

seems strange to me. And pls look at the stats in books:

108 on "work after he retired".
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6 on "work after he has retired"
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0 on "work after he is retired"
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BTW:

430 on "work after his retirement"
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using a noun seems even better than the first one with verbs (retired) in the above.

[OddThomas]

Here is an elaboration that feels fairly comfortable:My friend Don is retired. He worked as a carpenter for 37 years. He and his wife wanted to travel, but economic troubles have reduced their savings and he has taken on another job. I hate to see him struggle. He still needs to work so hard after he is retired.
Here are some similar uses:I feel better after I am rested.
After she was dressed she went for a walk.
We will eat after you are washed up.

[abcdeflearn]

Thank you all!

[Marius Hancu]

Donna Richoux has suggested better versions IMO than what we've posted here:

He will still need to work as hard after he retires.

He still needs to work hard even though he is retired.

Also, Robert Lieblich suggests:

He will still need to work just as hard after he has retired.
He still needs to work just as hard after his retirement.
or
He still needs to work just as hard even though he has retired.

CDB makes other important points here:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usage.english/browse_thread/thread/6aa0f94f2d16db9a/b29d2c1d0d8d8498#b29d2c1d0d8d8498