Hello, newbie here, what do you think about grammar?

[Artanam]

hello, all people around the world,, ha...ha..

I'm newbie here, hope i can join with you all.
I found that englishpage.com is really helpful for me, beside there're so much pages that i can learn there're forums here too.

ok, anyway i want to ask you. what do you think about english grammar?,

for me it's really sucks, I've been studying grammar for about 3 years, and i still got nothing, i don't know how?, so it's would be greatful if you can share here how to use grammar fluently.

oh another question, i heard that english can works without grammar, is that true?

thank you for your answer, see you soon

~Artanam~ User from Indonesia

[OddThomas]

Artanam, grammar is the system of rules for how to make words into sentences. Because of grammar, you can understand what you are reading. Without grammar, write understand you what could nothing of I.

Did that last clause make sense? No? It did not make sense because it did not follow any rules of grammar. So it is not correct to say that English can work without grammar.

If you learn enough grammar to put words into the right order some of the time, but not all of the time, you will not sound smart--you will sound like a child. (Me want cookie.) If you want to be an adult who sounds like a child, then just a little grammar is all you need.

If you want to be an adult speaker of English who sounds like an adult speaker of your own language, you must master English grammar just as well as you have mastered the grammar of your native language. That takes study, of course. I encourage you to put in the effort.

By the way, the nonsense clause above should read you could understand nothing of what I write.

[Wardaa]

Dear friends,

I totally agree with OddThomas about what he said in his email.

If you are learning any language, then you have to know its rules to enable you construct a good sentences and clauses. Also more importantly, make yourself comprehensible.

That's why we are learning or studying grammar books all over the stages of learning the language because I personally believe that we need grammar to learn the language, and it does not make any sense putting away the grammar or structure of a language.

Best of luck to all

With regards,
Wardaa

[Artanam]

thank you Odd Thomas, and Wardaa for your answer... :)

well, now i understand why we must learn grammar,

"learning rules are difficult but that because rules are very important"

however, I must take it no matter I like it or not.

thanks guys

[Postcat]

Well Guys !! Agreed that grammar is important ; but I think it is the usage that matters most .It is quite invariable that the rules and system used for the English Language during the 18th century are no more there and followign the same principle what we are using today might as well be obsolete after a century or so . That was too far indeed but of recent I think it's the usage and the various trends followed around the globe . But then what if we share our thoughts and the way we use this highly principled language. Perhaps that is why I have signed in here .....Enjoy Guys ..let's learn together

[Postcat]

Hi Guys I am back again ...this time with a problem which I want to share with you all and also want to know your views.
I had posted it sometimes back but could not get any reply so am rewriting it here again.

Why this paradox in usage of singular/plural verb in th following 2 sentences

3 men are enough for doing this job
Three hours is enough for him to do the job.