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abcdeflearn
05-07-2009, 10:14 AM
I have never said anything bad about you or your sentences.



never = negative


So is " or" correctly used in the sentence?


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1894
But, John," said Marguerite one day, " I cannot cook at all ; I can't make bread
, nor cook a chop, nor fry a codfish ball. Nor make a cup of coffee, ...
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How come " can't" = negative and nor= negative can be put together?





Thanks

Marius Hancu
05-07-2009, 10:28 AM
comma: use nor
no comma: use or

I have never said anything bad about you or your sentences
I have never said anything bad about you, nor about your sentences

The examples are both OK.

OddThomas
05-07-2009, 11:55 AM
Marius's explanation, because it is accurate for most purposes and simple, is splendid.

I want to point out the difference between the simple conjunction and the coordinating conjunction.

When nor is a simple conjunction, linking two objects (for example) the way and does, it cannot follow a negative verb without creating the double negative conflict. The following sentence is incorrect for that reason: I didn't eat the cookies nor the ice cream. The nor should be or: I didn't eat the cookies or the ice cream. Another way to fix that sentence would be to make the verb positive and use negatives on both words this way: I ate neither the cookies nor the ice cream.

When nor is a coordinating conjunction, linking two clauses the way for, and, but, or, yet, and so do, it really must follow a negative verb, or a verb with a negative implication. The purpose for nor in sentences of this type is to continue and extend the negative thought. Here is an example: I didn't eat the cookies, nor did I eat the ice cream. (Note the required comma in a sentence that uses a coordinating conjunction--see the rule that Marius supplied.)

In Marius's example, I have never said anything bad about you, nor about your sentences, when we use the comma (and we must use nor) then nor about your sentences is a reduced clause whose full form is nor [have I ever said anything bad] about your sentences. If we omit the comma, then about your sentences becomes the other half of a compound prepositional phrase with about you, linked by nor, and nor should suddenly be or. Marius's rule applies again: I have never said anything bad about you or your sentences.

abcdeflearn
05-07-2009, 07:49 PM
Thank you, guys.:)

Bridget
05-08-2009, 12:00 AM
I didn't eat the cookies nor the ice cream.

Often, I think that's just ellipsis at work. So, it might only be ungrammatical in the written form.

I didn't eat the cookies nor <did I eat> the ice cream.