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Eddie88
07-29-2009, 02:11 AM
Consider the following sentence, the way information is appended and feels tacked on.


Is the phrase in bold a second object of the verb 'consider'? (If so, then why is there no 'and' joining them instead of just a comma)?

Or do you think this is a summative modifier?

Or what?


Thanks

Marius Hancu
07-29-2009, 02:17 AM
Consider the following sentence, (and consider) the way information is appended and feels tacked on.

Typical ellipsis, nothing special.

Eddie88
07-29-2009, 02:25 AM
Thanks.

So then it is the same as naming it as the second object of the verb 'consider' (I'm unsure if there is a name for this).

Or do you feel there is a difference between these two?

Marius Hancu
07-29-2009, 02:26 AM
Same role as for
the following sentence
in the first clause.

What you have is two very similar clauses, joined, same verb in each, in two instantiations though, one ellipted, same transitivity. The rest I'm leaving to you.

Eddie88
07-29-2009, 02:46 AM
I had to read this sentence twice, or three times, to understand it. I assume the words in brackets have just been left out??


What you have is two very similar clauses, (which are)joined, (with the) same verb in each, in two instantiations though, (with)one ellipted, (with the)same transitivity. The rest I'm leaving to you.

Marius Hancu
07-29-2009, 04:20 AM
Yes. You need to read a lot of fiction, not grammar, IMO. I mean, these are very usual things/ellipses. You seem to understand only the most formal/structured stuff. I mean, forget about my sentences, even the original sentence, that's pretty basic stuff.

Eddie88
07-29-2009, 05:27 AM
It's not that I don't understand them or use them in my own writing; it's that I can't classfy them, which annoys me :)