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Ferdie
10-07-2009, 09:39 PM
Hi,

Many of our examples show adjectives placed in the subject part of the sentence.

I wonder why the words adjectives and placed are so close to each other. What do we call this kind of pattern?


Thanks in advance!

Bridget
10-07-2009, 11:18 PM
A reduced relative clause?

Marius Hancu
10-08-2009, 03:18 AM
They are close together because the original that flows well is:

Many of our examples show adjectives that are placed in the subject part of the sentence.

Ferdie
10-08-2009, 02:54 PM
A reduced relative clause?

I don't remember reading this in a grammar book.

Ferdie
10-08-2009, 02:57 PM
They are close together because the original that flows well is:

Many of our examples show adjectives that are placed in the subject part of the sentence.

So the placed functions as adjective? Are they interchangeable?

Rusty
10-08-2009, 03:11 PM
So the placed functions as adjective? Are they interchangeable?
The complete relative clause modifies the noun "adjectives" and in this way functions as an adjective.

Eddie88
10-08-2009, 03:12 PM
Many of our examples show adjectives that are placed in the subject part of the sentence."Adjectives" is a noun, functioning as the object of the verb to show.

(that are) placed in the subject part of the sentence is an adjective phrase modifying the noun 'adjectives.'

The relative pronoun 'that' and the verb to be 'are' can both be omitted to leave a reduced relative clause--when the relative pronoun is the subject of the relative clause. In your sentence, 'that' is the subject of the relative clause, so 'that' and 'are' can be omitted.


Search for relative clauses and reduced relative clauses on google if this explantion doesn't help.

Ferdie
10-11-2009, 12:53 PM
"Adjectives" is a noun, functioning as the object of the verb to show.

(that are) placed in the subject part of the sentence is an adjective phrase modifying the noun 'adjectives.'

The relative pronoun 'that' and the verb to be 'are' can both be omitted to leave a reduced relative clause--when the relative pronoun is the subject of the relative clause. In your sentence, 'that' is the subject of the relative clause, so 'that' and 'are' can be omitted.


Search for relative clauses and reduced relative clauses on google if this explantion doesn't help.

I can't seem to find your explanation in this site:

http://www.eslgold.com/grammar/reduced_relative_clauses.html

Can you tell me which one of these examples:

Reduced Relative Clauses

See also: Free-English-Study: Reduced Relative Clauses (http://free-english-study.com/grammar/reduced-relative-clauses.html).

You may delete the relative pronoun and the be verb when:
1. they are followed by a prepositional phrase.
A. The man who is in the house is my father.
The man in the house is my father.
B. The books that are on the desk are mine
The books on the desk are mine.

2. the main verb in the relative clause is progressive.

A. The man who is swimming in the lake is my father.
The man swimming in the lake is my father.
B. The books that are lying on the floor are mine.
The books lying on the floor are mine.

You may NOT delete the relative pronoun and the be verb when :

1. they are followed by an adjective:
The man who is angry is my father
X The man angry is my father
(However, you may switch the positions of the adjective and noun.)
The angry man is my father. (okay)
2. they are followed by a noun:
The man who is a doctor is my father.
X The man a doctor is my father.
The relative pronoun can be deleted if there is a new subject and verb following it:

A. This is the house that Jack built.
B. This is the house Jack built.
A. The person whom you see is my father.
B. The person you see is my father.
A. This is the place where I live.
B. This is the place I live.
A. I don't know the reason why she is late.
B. I don't know the reason she is late
(Also : I don't know why she is late. )
A. The woman whom he likes is married.
B. The woman he likes is married.
Notes:
Do not delete a relative pronoun that is followed by a verb other than be:
The man who likes lasagna is my father.
X The man likes lasagna is my father.
Never delete the relative pronoun whose:
The man whose car broke down went to the station. X The man car broke down went to the station.
Thanks in advance!

Eddie88
10-11-2009, 04:26 PM
I don't entirely agree with that list. First of all, it states you cannot delete the relative pronoun and the verb to be when a noun follows. This is untrue. This often happens, creating an appositive.

I cannot find the site I usually refer to, as my laptop broke. Once I find it, I can let you know.

Eddie88
10-11-2009, 04:33 PM
http://www.iei.uiuc.edu/structure/structure1/adjclause.html

Ferdie
10-12-2009, 10:14 AM
http://www.iei.uiuc.edu/structure/structure1/adjclause.html

I cannot find the site I usually refer to, as my laptop broke. Once I find it, I can let you know.

So it is the site you usually refer to?

Eddie88
10-13-2009, 02:01 AM
Yep, I found it, through google.