adjective+others

[boboy234567]

Hi,

He was bullied by the bad others.


Is it correct to place an adjective in front of "others"?


Thanks

[Marius Hancu]

This one doesn't work, not in published books:

0 on "by the bad others"
http://books.google.com/books?q=%22by+the+bad+others%22&btnG=Search+Books

Try:

by the bad ones

However, this works:

169 on "the bad others"
http://books.google.com/books?lr=&q=%22the+bad+others%22&sa=N&start=60

which is a bit strange, but this is how I feel too.

[Rusty]

If you look closely at the examples you will find many are a part of two sentences. "....bad. Others...."
Some have an ellipsis: "The good will please some, the bad others.." (the bad will please others...}
"He was bullied by the bad others."
"the bad others" does not sound natural.
"He was bullied by the bad other (plural noun)"
"He was bullied by the other bad (plural noun)"
Neither of the about works. Both sentences include him in the group of the bad (plural noun).

[Rusty]

Boboy, you can check word collocation (whether or not they go together) on the British National Corpus website here. (http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/)There are no examples of bad others. The only examples I found were numbers (two others, five others, etc.), many others, all others, few others. I found no adjectives in the 150 that I checked. I am sure there are some words that collocate with others, for example, significant others.

[Marius Hancu]

I know, Rusty, but there are some good ones:-), such as:

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Inventing nations: justifications of authority in the modern world‎ - Page 19 (http://books.google.com/books?id=bKqSQkriEVIC&pg=PA19&dq=%22the+bad+others%22&lr=)

by Terry H. Pickett - Political Science (http://books.google.com/books?q=+subject:%22Political+Science%22&lr=) - 1996 - 155 pages

The moral mission is to eliminate the bad others or, at least, their effective ... The bad others are, moreover, depicted as vicious and cunning adversaries
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The writings of Jonathan Swift: authoritative texts, backgrounds, criticism‎ - Page 649 (http://books.google.com/books?id=J9IIAQAAIAAJ&q=%22the+bad+others%22&dq=%22the+bad+others%22&lr=)

by Jonathan Swift, Robert A. Greenberg, William Bowman Piper - Literary Criticism (http://books.google.com/books?q=+subject:%22Literary+Criticism%22&lr=) - 1973 - 721 pages

The bad others are found in books I and III, which treat of the recognizably modern. The good others are in books II and IV, which are, at the least, ...
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Chiaroscuro: essays of identity‎ - Page 99 (http://books.google.com/books?id=86UAeiupVisC&pg=PA99&dq=%22the+bad+others%22&lr=)

by Helen Barolini - Biography & Autobiography (http://books.google.com/books?q=+subject:%22Biography+%26+Autobiography%22&lr=) - 1999 - 224 pages

It has made itself into its darkest image: manly, tough cowboy going to square off against the bad Others (Injun, or Arab), propelled by some perverted, ...
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[Rusty]

I know, Rusty, but there are some good ones:-), such as:

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Inventing nations: justifications of authority in the modern world‎ - Page 19 (http://books.google.com/books?id=bKqSQkriEVIC&pg=PA19&dq=%22the+bad+others%22&lr=)

by Terry H. Pickett - Political Science (http://books.google.com/books?q=+subject:%22Political+Science%22&lr=) - 1996 - 155 pages

The moral mission is to eliminate the bad others or, at least, their effective ... The bad others are, moreover, depicted as vicious and cunning adversaries
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The writings of Jonathan Swift: authoritative texts, backgrounds, criticism‎ - Page 649 (http://books.google.com/books?id=J9IIAQAAIAAJ&q=%22the+bad+others%22&dq=%22the+bad+others%22&lr=)

by Jonathan Swift, Robert A. Greenberg, William Bowman Piper - Literary Criticism (http://books.google.com/books?q=+subject:%22Literary+Criticism%22&lr=) - 1973 - 721 pages

The bad others are found in books I and III, which treat of the recognizably modern. The good others are in books II and IV, which are, at the least, ...
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Chiaroscuro: essays of identity‎ - Page 99 (http://books.google.com/books?id=86UAeiupVisC&pg=PA99&dq=%22the+bad+others%22&lr=)

by Helen Barolini - Biography & Autobiography (http://books.google.com/books?q=+subject:%22Biography+%26+Autobiography%22&lr=) - 1999 - 224 pages

It has made itself into its darkest image: manly, tough cowboy going to square off against the bad Others (Injun, or Arab), propelled by some perverted, ...
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Thanks, Marius.