them to be / they are

[ivanenco]

Hello everyone!
1) Which is correct?
I know them to be right. / I know that they are right.
They seem to be happy. / They seem that they are happy./They seem that they will be happy.

2) How to say it in Furture Tense?
We consider her to have been a good dancer. (Past)
We consider her to be a good dancer. (Present)
We consider her ..?.. a good dancer. (Future)

Thanks in advance.

[Bridget]

Hello everyone!
1) Which is correct?
I know them to be right. / I know that they are right. The first one implies that they can be trusted to always be right.
They seem to be happy. Good.

They seem that they are happy./They seem that they will be happy. No.

It seems (that) they are happy.

2) How to say it in Future Tense?
We consider her to have been a good dancer. (Past)
We consider her to be a good dancer. (Present)
We consider her ..?.. a good dancer. (Future)

Can "consider", in that sense, be used to talk about the future?

[ivanenco]

OK. How would it be if instead of "We consider" I had written "We think"?

[Rusty]

OK. How would it be if instead of "We consider" I had written "We think"?
1) We consider that she will be a good dancer.
2) We believe that she will be a good dancer.
3) We think that she will be a good dancer.

(These are all OK. I think 2) and 3) are more common).

[ivanenco]

Thanks for answering.
I have some more sentences. Could you check them?
(First sentence is given, second to be checked).

1. My brother bought an illustrated magazine which he could look through.
My brother bought an illustrated magazine to be looked through.

2. He had some interesting stories he could tell us.
He had some interesting stories to be told us.
He had some interesting stories to tell us.

3. I have some work I should cope with.
I have some work to be coped with.

4. The only thing which should be done is to find a book for home-reading.
The only thing to be done is to find a book for home-reading.

5. There are some flowers in the garden that you should look after.
There are some flowers in the garden to be looked after.

6. They have a good dictionary that they should use in their work.
They have a good dictionary to be used in their work.

7. Here are some articles which you should translate from English.
Here are some articles to be translated from English.

8. This is an article you can refer to.
This is an article to be referred to.

9. I have bought a new record which we can listen to tonight.
I have bought a new record to listen to tonight.

10. Have you got anybody whom you ought to take care of?
Have you got anybody to be ought to take care of?

[Rusty]

Ivanenco, before I answer I would like to know if the second sentence is supposed to have the same meaning as the first.

[ivanenco]

Rusty, yes.
The meaning must be the same.

[Rusty]

I have some more sentences. Could you check them?
(First sentence is given, second to be checked).

(In most of the sentences the meaning changed when you changed from active to passive voice).

1. My brother bought an illustrated magazine which he could look through. (his ability).
My brother bought an illustrated magazine to be looked through. (the purpose of the magazine).

2. He had some interesting stories he could tell us. (his ability/his choice).
He had some interesting stories to be told us. (the potential of the stories).
He had some interesting stories to tell us. (Similar to 2.).

3. I have some work I should cope with. (my obligation).
I have some work to be coped with. (the state of the work).

4. The only thing which should be done is to find a book for home-reading.
The only thing to be done is to find a book for home-reading. (These are similar in meaning: obligation, propriety, expediency).

5. There are some flowers in the garden that you should look after. (you are the one who should do it).
There are some flowers in the garden to be looked after. (Somebody needs to do it).

6. They have a good dictionary that they should use in their work. (They ought to use the dictionary).
They have a good dictionary to be used in their work. (This is the purpose of the dictionary).

7. Here are some articles which you should translate from English. (It's your job).
Here are some articles to be translated from English. (The articles are waiting for somebody to translate them).

8. This is an article you can refer to. (...if you choose to or need to).
This is an article to be referred to. (Somebody is supposed to refer to it).

9. I have bought a new record which we can listen to tonight.
I have bought a new record to listen to tonight. (The meaning is similar).

10. Have you got anybody whom you ought to take care of? (your duty).
Have you got anybody to be ought to taken care of? (the person's need).